tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527840491496268397.post5819097842977667493..comments2024-03-08T11:20:30.095-07:00Comments on Credit Bubble Stocks: Guest Review: @pdxsag on Real Food On Trial by Dr Tim NoakesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527840491496268397.post-74339246360228418282020-03-08T13:47:43.292-07:002020-03-08T13:47:43.292-07:00there is a reason he / she was posting as anonymou...there is a reason he / she was posting as anonymous. to equate a high carb diet to a V12 engine is ludicrous. It is more like a heavily tuned 4 cylinder engine that will certainly have premature catastrophic engine failure.Andy Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17274070089312130574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527840491496268397.post-59020892891125157892020-01-09T14:22:30.135-07:002020-01-09T14:22:30.135-07:00I see a lot of remarkably strong, but flabby guys ...I see a lot of remarkably strong, but flabby guys in the gym.<br /><br />Anyway, it sounds like we agree more than we disagree. But why you are trying to make a distinction that there <i>are</i> situations where carbs can be a consequential part of one's diet without them necessarily making one fat? (rhetorical, don't answer that) In theory maybe (there's the whole pro-ageing aspect of insulin which carbs exacerbate), but even so, it's the exception that proves the rule:<br /><br />*most people* should be doing the *exact opposite* of the mainstream diet & exercise advice.<br /><br />Noakes tried telling the public that and was professionally attacked to the point of being subjected to a show trial!<br /><br />That's the incredible take-away message.<br /><br />If you want to complain that "hey, Noakes was doing high carb wrong," you've missed the plot, my friend.Allan Folzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06762674627739423845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527840491496268397.post-73554975883289067512020-01-09T11:53:30.008-07:002020-01-09T11:53:30.008-07:00"Mainstream/standard diet advice was not pres..."Mainstream/standard diet advice was not presented with caveats."<br /><br />From the article:<br />"Neither was Noakes an iconoclast seeing conspiracy theories at every turn. Ironically, Noakes, himself, followed the conventional health advice with a carbohydrate rich diet and ever more exercise in a – largely futile – battle to keep his weight down and his fitness up. "<br /><br /><br />"However, the biggest benefit of a low carb diet is the reduced hunger that goes along with reduced carbohydrate intake so that followers naturally eat less and make-up for the energy deficit via their own fat stores."<br /><br /><br />Exactly. After turning his metabolism into the equivalent of a 3 cylinder Geo Metro, he needed barely any calories. The low carb diet increased his satiety and helped him cut his calories naturally while still feeling full. Weight gain or loss largely comes down to calories. Anyone arguing otherwise is usually fat.<br /><br />"My lying eyes at the gym would have to disagree."<br /><br />I don't know what you're seeing in the gym. If you're seeing the average American, he simply eats too much in all categories and is given the standard "DO STEADY STATE CARDIO" advice for weight loss. The latter will slow your metabolism to a halt. For added proof, just look at the physique differences between sprinters and long distance runners and decide for yourself which you like better. Also compare the diets of Olympic athletes in the two groups. Look at Husain Bolt's diet, for example.<br /><br />Remember: everyone on the internet is an expert. My wife is a fit dietitian so even my "expertise" is second-hand and anecdotal. <br /><br />"Biblical evidence is an oxymoron. Anyway, if the question at hand is scientific in nature, I'm in the 10,000 year explosion camp."<br /><br />How wonderfully the concept of a 10,000 year explosion agrees with the Biblical data if you factor in the Carbon-14 dating errors due to improper latitude normalization and the exponential dating offsets that occur earlier than 1400 BC. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527840491496268397.post-39374266331726982622020-01-08T14:55:11.212-07:002020-01-08T14:55:11.212-07:00standard diet advice didn't work for him becau...<i>standard diet advice didn't work for him because he was an elite distance runner.</i><br /><br />Mainstream/standard diet advice was not presented with caveats.<br /><br /><br /><i>If you want to get lean, you need to put on muscle by lifting weights and eating a lot of carbohydrates.</i><br /><br />My lying eyes at the gym would have to disagree.<br /><br /><br /><i>It works quite well for other types of athletes.</i><br /><br />If by other type of athlete you mean, 20-somethings, sure.<br /><br /><br /><i>All the Biblical evidence was that we were eating a lot of carbohydrates at the beginning.</i><br /><br />Biblical evidence is an oxymoron. Anyway, if the question at hand is scientific in nature, I'm in the <a rel="nofollow">10,000 year explosion</a> camp.Allan Folzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06762674627739423845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527840491496268397.post-84494647597333011282020-01-08T08:43:27.231-07:002020-01-08T08:43:27.231-07:00"Neither was Noakes an iconoclast seeing cons..."Neither was Noakes an iconoclast seeing conspiracy theories at every turn. Ironically, Noakes, himself, followed the conventional health advice with a carbohydrate rich diet and ever more exercise in a – largely futile – battle to keep his weight down and his fitness up. Finally, in 2010 he had what he called his “Damascene experience” where almost unable to complete a 5k for his morning exercise routine – for over 40 years he had been an avid ultra-distance runner"<br /><br />There's a couple of things going on here. Lots of long-interval, steady-state cardiovascular exercise slows down your metabolism and makes it a more efficient fat-burning, fat-storing machine. Fat is the primary fuel source during these athletic endeavors. It's probably true that the standard diet advice didn't work for him because he was an elite distance runner. It's the equivalent of having a small, 4-cylinder engine to move a light car at a steady average speed.<br /><br />If you want to get lean, you need to put on muscle by lifting weights and eating a lot of carbohydrates. This is the equivalent of having a V-12 engine to move several tons. Just look at the physique differences between long distance runners and sprinters or tight-ends and wide receivers. Scott Abel has a bunch of material about this on his blog and YouTube channel. <br /><br />So, high-carb probably didn't work for Noakes for good reason. It works quite well for other types of athletes. Carbohydrates are also the main fuel source of the brain. <br /><br />All the Biblical evidence was that we were eating a lot of carbohydrates at the beginning. Meat was added later. The human body is very adaptable for a variety of food sources though. Grain farming, as James C. Scott put it, was historically a good way of taxing and enslaving people but that's about it. That doesn't mean grain was the only carbohydrate source on offer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com